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Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Payday Loans Ordinance: Right idea, wrong implementation


By Nicole Forsythe
The Kansas City Post

On April 8th we will be asked to vote on a new ordinance restricting the operations of so-called “payday loan” offices in Kansas City.

I fully support parts of this legislation such as the exterior signage limitations and location restrictions and commend the city council's attempt at protecting Kansas City neighborhoods. However, I wholly disagree with the annual licensing fees contained in the ordinance.

What’s the problem? The fees are ineffective and inefficient in that:

1) The ordinance imposes only a $1000 renewal fee – enough to make payday loan establishments complain a little, but not enough to shut one down.

2) The ordinance ultimately results in a tax on the poor because the payday loan establishments will pass along the cost of the fee to its customers.

3) The ordinance directs this “tax on the poor” back to the city. It is abhorrent for payday loans to make money off of poor people, but through this ordinance, the city will too.

4) The only way to put payday loans out of business it to take away their customer base. Any fees that are collected through this ordinance should be directed to consumer education and counseling – not to the city.

5) The fees collected through this ordinance are purported to fund 2 or 3 inspectors. I am skeptical the predicted licensing revenues will account not only for the cost of salaries and benefits of the inspectors but the peripheral costs of administration and enforcement as well. The city can barely handle the financial problems it already has – why take on more?

6) Banking regulation is best handled at the state level, or perhaps, federal level. The payday loan problem is too complex to handle at the city level with the exception of density zoning which has proven successful in other communities.


I’m sure this attempt at a crack-down on payday loan establishments will pass. After all, it feels right to tax the bad guys – it makes voters feel like the government is doing something to help the community. Unfortunately, I don’t think helping the community is that simple. Consequently, I won’t be voting to impose a minuscule fee on payday loan establishments – even though I think they’re bottom-feeding scam artists.

Comments on "Payday Loans Ordinance: Right idea, wrong implementation"

 

Blogger Tony said ... (8:30 AM) : 

I agree more, I don't like heavy handed fees on small business almost as much as I hate these places.

Awesome post!!!

 

Anonymous MichelleD said ... (9:14 AM) : 

Spot on Nicole. I received Gottstein's email newsletter touting this bill - I wrote her back stating several of the reasons you stated. No, I didn't hear back. I'm not voting for it either.

We have a neighbor that said cashing a $500 check cost her $70 (I believe). Now it will cost her $80 - good job city council! (We tried to advise her but haven't seen her to know if she took our advice.)

 

Anonymous Brent said ... (9:21 AM) : 

Seems like the money could more wisely be spent providing incentives for banks to solicite low-income accounts if only to have a small savings account to allow for free check cashing...would probably be more affective, and have longer-term benefits.

 

Blogger KC Sponge said ... (10:57 AM) : 

Brent -
I like that idea - a bank should go into this . . . you can cash a check at the check cashing spot for $50 or you can come and cash it at our bank - it will only cost you $25, and that $25 will actually be deposited in a savings account with your name. It would have to cost a small fee or something to take the money out of that account, or have restrictions on withdrawals, but it would encourage saving, it would be a source of revenue for the banks, it would put predatory lenders out of business - or at least dissuade some of their predatory practices. I like it.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:48 AM) : 

Why is Gottstein touting this ordinance? Wasn't this Marcason's brilliant idea? Have either one of them even been inside a payday loan store? I doubt it.

 

Blogger Well Hell Michelle said ... (1:34 PM) : 

A lot of these check cashing places aren't small businesses, but owned by larger banking corporations, so a $1000 renewal fee is nothing to them.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:49 PM) : 

Great insight!

Kansas City is being asked to join in on raping the poor. Shame of the goody-two-shoe girls. They don't have a clue as to how to fix a problem, they just create new ones.

Two for two. This council is going after the poor and they're going after the mom and pop bar owners with their smoking ban. What a despicable freshman class KC elected last year.

 

OpenID Eric Rogers said ... (11:27 AM) : 

I'm voting "no" because this does nothing to reduce the number payday loan business. Give me a proposal that actually gets them out of my neighborhood and I'll vote for it a hundred times.

 

Anonymous MichelleD said ... (1:11 PM) : 

Eric, I may be mis-understanding you but IMO the point shouldn't be to "get them out of my neighborhood" - although I will admit I don't want them in mine! The goal should be to educate people on how to avoid using and/or NEEDING pay day loans. The avg salary for of patrons of these places is $50k/yr - this points to money mis-management not predatory lending on the poor. The other group seems to be folks that have no where else to cash their checks - and we have to be honest that these places are taking a big risk by cashing personal checks.

It's about supply and demand - can't fix the problem without reducing the demand. This is another problem that will not be solved thru legislation alone. KCSponge's idea is excellent!

btw - Drive thru Mission, KS Downtown...KCMO is not the only place with payday loans popping up and Mission is NOT a poor city.

Great discussion!

 

Anonymous Payday Lending Rep said ... (12:17 PM) : 

This discussion misses the point: Customers deserve choices.

 

Anonymous MichelleD said ... (1:28 PM) : 

Payday...Payday loans giving poor people choices is kinda like feminism giving women the choice to be strippers. Yes, both are valid options but not necessarily good ones...more like necessary evils.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:55 PM) : 

Why do we fixate on taxing the bad guys and let the Billboard guys go free. Yes they go free. No taxes on the message like newspapers and no taxes on the billboard itself. In Kansas City a lot of the billboards have been "Lost" the county does not even know that they exist. The city requires a set fee for erection-- you and I have to pay a percentage for building permits. Councilperson Gottstein let them off the hook and no body said a thing.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:43 PM) : 

It's Gottstein's ordinance. You're lucky it doesn't require people who go to payday loan places to do the hokey pokey or something else irrelevat.

Who lets this woman introduce this stuff???

If her and Funkhouser had kids, this would be it:

http://www.nos.nl/nosjournaal/images/michael-jackson-tbv-inte~61_tcm44-136491.jpg

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:58 PM) : 

A NO vote on KCATA tuesday makes Gottstein and Markuson and the country lawyer go back and come up with something of value for bus riders.

 

Blogger FakeDavidDavis said ... (10:07 AM) : 

Nice article. Did we pay you for that (sometimes it is hard to keep up with all the money flowing here to media and legislators).

My company, Check 'n go, isn't afraid of a $1,000 licensing fee. Bring on the additional inspectors as well. I make SO much money by raping and pillaging the finances of the poor that I can afford to pay licensing fees and fines. Just a regulatory cost of doing business, we like to say! So, I say - vote however you want this week. Just remember to stop by on your way home from the polls to pay me your interest charge and roll your loan over.

 

Anonymous MichelleD said ... (11:02 PM) : 

Yeah, if you were really from check n' go you'd know that the pay day loans really like to rape and pillage the finances of households with incomes of $50k. You're right though...the fine will do nothing but further bloat our govt.

 

Anonymous michelleD said ... (11:04 PM) : 

never mind my comment...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:33 AM) : 

I don't know what everyone who says that "educating people" means. Why do you think that people go to these places in the first place??? Most people who go to payday places aren't just squandering their money. They don't make enough to live not even comfortably! They make enough just to pay their rent or mortgage, car payment, utilities and insurance. What about food and the basics? That is why they are in poor areas. They know that these people are in need of MONEY-not education!!!

 

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